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Segregation Reemerging in America

In recent years, the specter of segregation has begun to rear its head in America once more, manifesting in the formation of all-white towns and communities that explicitly exclude individuals of other racial and ethnic backgrounds. This troubling trend has sparked significant discourse around the implications of such segregated living arrangements and the ideologies that underpin them. The podcast hosted by Darren Harris sheds light on this phenomenon, exploring the motivations behind these communities and the broader societal ramifications of their emergence. At the heart of this reemerging segregation is a group known as Return to the Land (RTTL), which advocates for the establishment of intentional communities exclusively for individuals of white Anglo-Saxon European ancestry. These communities are not merely informal arrangements but are deliberately planned and designed to foster a homogenous environment. The RTTL's ambitions extend beyond isolated pockets; they aim to prolif...

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Hey folks, what's up? Welcome back to the program. I'm your host, Deron Harris, and this is my podcast. How are you feeling this week? Hopefully, everybody is doing okay. I'm joined this week by my wife. What's going on, babe? How are you feeling? Hey, baby. Ivonne Harris is in the house today. Thank you very much for joining me. I do appreciate it. Before I even get started, last month I did men's mental health. I did a men's mental health like... A series of the whole month, and it helped me a lot. I hope that it helped other people a lot and I just want to encourage anybody out there That's having any kind of mental health issues to please go out and seek some help because it really is important You should definitely go out and do it therapy is not a bad thing letting people know that you need help is not a bad thing You should go out and let people know if some things are wrong because I can definitely understand especially what was going on in the country today and that's What we'll be talking about today, a medley of a few things. We're going to discuss the substantial, impressive bill. That just passed.

 
Some people think it's a big, beautiful bill. Some people think it's a big bunch of bullshit. And we're going to talk about that, chop it up about that, and see what the pros and cons of that are. And we're going to talk about Diddy and what happened with his verdict and what's going on with this dude now, what's happening with Diddy? I don't know, man. It's crazy. And we're going to be talking about... Alligator Alcatraz, because we live in Florida.

 
So currently. And we... We have some feelings about, or I do, I have some feelings about what's going on with the alligator Alcatraz down here in Florida. And I really encourage everybody to stick around. But first, before we get started, I'm going to take a quick break to pay a couple of bills.
And then when we come back, I'm going to jump right back into it. The big, beautiful bullshit bill or whatever they want to call it. This is the Deron Harris podcast. I'll be right back.

 
- Hey everybody, what's up? Welcome back to the program. Today I'm here with my wife. We're chilling, what's going on, babe? - Hey. - And we're gonna sit here and we're gonna chop it up about a few things. First up on deck is this, Big, beautiful bill that... And now we've been seeing a lot about it. And I'm not sure. Well, a lot of people aren't sure how it's going to affect them, and they don't really know. What it's about. Did you know anything about it?

 
Ivonne Harris | 03:03
Yeah, well, can I say something first? Sure.
So I know today is supposed to be your regular podcast. Yeah. But you just had a special day.
So I'm going to flip the mic today. Okay. And so this is going to be about you. Okay. Yes, I want you to consider it kind of like a love letter.
Deron Harris | 03:26
Okay. Okay?
Ivonne Harris | 03:27
Okay, baby. So I have some questions.
And then we can do your podcast, but I just want... I want this to be about you right now. Okay. Okay? Sure.
Deron Harris | 03:36
Okay. Okay, so hey.
Ivonne Harris | 03:38
Okay, so this is a little surprise.
Deron Harris | 03:41
Okay.
Ivonne Harris | 03:43
Okay, I just have a few questions for you. Okay. If you could go back and give your 25-year-old self one piece of advice, what would it be?
Deron Harris | 03:54
Man. Dear Clear of Sagittarius.
Ivonne Harris | 04:00
Wow. Laughs That's... Now, can I ask, is it because of your... Is your cancer?
Deron Harris | 04:15
Yeah, because I'm with cancer. We're just polar opposites. And it just don't.
I mean, we can be great friends. But Anything other than that, psh. Nah. But I don't know. I think there's probably more. Important things if I was 25, I can go back and tell my 25 year old self. Man. Don't focus so much on the small things. Enjoy life more. Enjoy your life more You know, you can't control everything. Right. Don't beat yourself up so much.
You know, you're not perfect. You don't have to be perfect. You were never built to be perfect. I know there's more than one thing, I mean, Yeah, I've been involved in a lot of shit.
Ivonne Harris | 05:04
But... No, but that's good.
Yeah, because just think about it. You've done a lot. Just in the industry, you know, yeah, I hear you talking about it.
Like even yesterday you were talking about it or was it what two days ago when you were telling those two men. I've been in this industry.
Deron Harris | 05:25
- Right. You know.
Well, I mean the service industry I mean, I don't necessarily, I don't regret it because, or being in it or being involved. Maybe I stayed too long.
You know, maybe I didn't focus on other things, but I really do. I like hospitality. I like to see people happy. And I have a very short attention span, so sitting behind a desk for me was really not an option.
Yeah, I can see that. Wanting to you know, do something productive for, and you know, follow my dreams because, you know, I'm a comedian. I want to be a comedian.
Well, I've always wanted to be a comedian. And the service industry kinda halfway took that away from me because I could never be where I needed to be in order to make those dreams happen. And I needed to, pay bills and make money. - Right. - And I didn't have a nine to five day job, or anything like that. I worked at night when I needed to be at comedy clubs, or wherever I needed to be in order. But do I regret my time there? No. Do? I wish I would have found something like that could have gave me maybe a little more flexibility towards that. What Yeah, so I could really have a chance to really lean into it.
Ivonne Harris | 06:41
You were going for with your goal.
Deron Harris | 06:46
But now, you know, I just, like you said, I just had a milestone birthday. I'm 55. Yes. And... I feel kind of renewed, I guess. I guess, I don't wanna say I'm having a midlife crisis, or anything like that, but I guess, I'm feeling kind of renewed in the respect that I can still do whatever I want to do. I can do what I want to do. I can write jokes and get up and perform or not. Am I looking to be famous? No, not at all. And.
Ivonne Harris | 07:20
Do you feel, right, you don't feel any different. I mean, from 54 to 55, like in a day, you're not going to feel any different.
Deron Harris | 07:28
No, that comes like when shit starts failing on.
Ivonne Harris | 07:30
During the year you. But what I'm saying is that you've done, I mean, you've accomplished a lot. You've done a lot.
Yeah. I mean, and I watch you and I'm like, you're great at mostly everything that I see you do.
Deron Harris | 07:44
- Well thanks babe. - Yeah.
Ivonne Harris | 07:46
I'm like, I don't know. - I do appreciate that. - I was like, I watch you do all these Different themes. And it's pretty cool to watch you...
I mean, I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm usually just watching. I'm actually taking notes in my.
Deron Harris | 07:58
Head. Well, I'm a creative person. Exactly. There's things that I didn't... That I didn't myself. I didn't grasp onto in school.
You know, I'm not ashamed to admit that. There was just things I couldn't... I couldn't get, you know what I mean? Right. But there are things that I got.
I mean, there are things that I got, you know, that just, it just comes to me, you know, and those things, I'm proud of and I try and do as much as I can to focus on those, you know, those other things, those other creative avenues or outlets. But I just look at them as that, just outlets.
You know what I mean? I'm not trying to, you know, I make beats. I'm not really trying to get famous making beats. I just like to listen to. You make beats.
Ivonne Harris | 08:46
Some cool ass I know.
Deron Harris | 08:47
But I like to just listen to music.
Ivonne Harris | 08:49
And I can see that. You know, with you, it's not, hey, I'm going to do this. I'm trying to go get some money. No. That's something that you enjoy. It actually brings you.
Deron Harris | 08:58
Joy. Yeah. I'm not really trying to. Be famous making beats.
You know, if somebody likes my beats, cool. If you want to buy one, hey, that's even about that.
Ivonne Harris | 09:06
Cool too. You know how I feel Put those beats But no, I understand.
Deron Harris | 09:07
Yeah, I know how you feel about that. Out there. Put them out there, get it out there, get that money.
Ivonne Harris | 09:14
I'm like, I don't, That's why you have, and people say, it's too much. If you have too many hobbies, it's not good.
Deron Harris | 09:22
I get that a lot. Because how can Well, that's the thing.
Ivonne Harris | 09:24
You complete a task?
Deron Harris | 09:26
I have ADHD. I have severe ADHD. And that's a lot of the reason that... I just wasn't able to focus.
I mean, I've always had problems like completing tasks. You know, certain tasks, though, I can remain laser focused and finish those tasks. But a lot like, you know, I make a beat and a few hours later, maybe I get bored with it. I don't. And I put it away and I never look at it again. Right. And sometimes I come back to it and I'm like, " wow, that's great. I should build a movement." Sometimes I come back to it and I'm like, "What the fuck was I thinking? That shit just sounds like fucking ass." you know, but.
Ivonne Harris | 10:07
All right. Well, thank you. All right. I have another one. Okay. What's something you're still learning about yourself?
Deron Harris | 10:23
Wow. That's something I'm still learning about myself. That I don't know shit. That I don't, I'm... I don't know shit. What? I don't know shit.
You know what I mean? I don't. I don't know shit. I know some...
Like, what I don't.
Ivonne Harris | 10:43
Kind of know shit? I don't...
Deron Harris | 10:50
No. I don't know. I'm tired.
Sometimes I'm at a loss for a lot of things. I'm learning, I guess I'm learning about myself that... It's okay to not. No, sometimes just to not be perfect or not be that. That, the sharpest tool in the shed, so to speak.
I mean, and I'm not afraid to admit that. Like I said, I struggle in a lot of areas.
You know, there's areas I don't struggle in, you know? Ha. Right. How about that?
Yeah.
Ivonne Harris | 11:29
And then focus on those.
Deron Harris | 11:30
Too. But I focus more on those, and I'm learning that through those. Through those things that.
You know, Happiness is... Is not about... You how smart somebody thinks that you are. It's about... It's about.
You know, what makes the inside of you light up. Yeah. More than anything. And I find I guess I'm finding out about myself that. I never cease to entertain myself. I never cease to keep a happy light or an optimistic outlook on a lot of things based on... Guess my approach to art or my approach to anything that I want to I that I want to see happen or You know, I, despite all the bullshit that's happening in the world, I still have this capacity to want to love everybody and want to, you know, and I guess I'm learning that, you know, it doesn't matter how angry I get about something. I still ultimately want the world and the people in it to love and respect each other. Right.
Ivonne Harris | 12:43
That's sweet.
Deron Harris | 12:45
Baby. Yeah, I mean, I love people. I know. And I want them to love each other, and it's just shitty that they don't. And for the reasons that they don't. Stupid. It's dumb.
Ivonne Harris | 12:52
Stupid. Like, Because I feel the same.
Deron Harris | 12:54
I'm with you. It's fucking dumb. I'm with you. It's fucking stupid.
Ivonne Harris | 12:59
But. Yeah. We'll get to that. There's a topic about that. Okay. We're gonna move along to about our relationship.
Deron Harris | 13:10
- Okay.
Ivonne Harris | 13:12
What one moment?- What's one moment from our relationship you would play in your mind?
Deron Harris | 13:21
Bye, Gwen. Like, anytime.
Ivonne Harris | 13:23
Like.
Deron Harris | 13:25
It's all the goddamn time. I mean, it's all it's so many. This is not one thing. It's just so many things. The time that you lost your glasses on the beach. That's how you lost your glasses on the beach. That was crazy. Vito and Michaels. Yeah. When I took you to Dave's, you were like, this motherfucker brought me to meet his friends the look on your face when that happened.
Ivonne Harris | 13:49
On our first fucking date. Yeah, for the first time. I was like, what is this?
Yeah. What's going on?
Deron Harris | 13:56
Us eating Subway sandwiches. On the, I guess on the Gulf or whatever the inlet, wherever that was.
Ivonne Harris | 14:07
- Right, it was over there by went over the bridge and we were like look.
Deron Harris | 14:08
Clearwater. - Yeah, over by Clearwater. - We - Yeah, look at that. Every drive we take. It's all the time. It's every, I mean, it's, that's, I mean, I don't... It's just not one time. I guess if it was one time... It's... It's perpetually being with you all the time. This is the one time. It's one time. I'd have to die and come back and we'd have to be together again for it to be a second time.
Something else to compare it to. Wow. All the time. I just want to be with you. I just want to, I don't, I mean, people say that's just go to the business. Fuck y'all. Look at my.
Ivonne Harris | 14:54
Book. Right, but I started seeing reels about people making fun of those that say that.
So if somebody says, how are you guys together all the time? Don't you get sick and tired of each other?
And then you see these people using the bathroom like he's on the toilet. She's sitting on him. I hilarious.
Deron Harris | 15:11
Saw that. That's like, let's go.
Ivonne Harris | 15:13
Then he's in the kitchen. She's with him. And it's basket.
Deron Harris | 15:17
Yeah. If I could put you in my pocket, I would. Let's go. A Yeah, come on, let's go.
Yeah, I mean, you fit in a backpack.
Ivonne Harris | 15:24
Yeah, I think I just have to sit down, be comfortable.
Deron Harris | 15:25
So. You're like a little backpacker. You get like one of those baby carriers.
Ivonne Harris | 15:33
Okay. On to the next one. Okay. What's a lesson from our relationship you'll want others to hear?
Deron Harris | 15:49
Patience. Be patient. Be patient.
Guess is You really, if... Man, this is tough. A lesson from our relationship. Yes. That I want. That you can learn Every single day that you can learn that you can laugh that you can learn to disagree? And not fight and hate you can learn to accept? Who this person is for who they are genuinely really you can be you can you cannot be? Disrespectful when you disagree with somebody and You know what I mean? Right. I don't call you. I don't care what it is. I know. I don't care how mad you make me. I don't call you outside your name. I don't do nothing.
Ivonne Harris | 16:58
I know, baby. You Well, on top of that, we don't We do have disagreements.
Deron Harris | 16:59
Sweet. I love you. And why would I do that? Really. We don't really fight. We don't fight. We have disagreements.
Ivonne Harris | 17:09
And I can say.
Deron Harris | 17:10
What you're mad about or what's what is bothering you. Well, it's not necessarily what. - Yeah.
Ivonne Harris | 17:16
What's bothering me, but then I can say for myself, Like you say, hey girl. When are you going to say sorry? Because I don't have time to be waiting for you to say.
Deron Harris | 17:28
Sorry. But see, me, I say... But you do. If I'm wrong, I know that I'm wrong. And I feel that I'm wrong and I know that I've hurt you. And as your husband, the last thing I want to do is hurt my wife. And if I know and I can acknowledge myself, hey, this might have been shitty to do or shitty to say or shitty way to react. Right.
You know, or, you know, I mean, I can acknowledge if I've snapped at you, I can say, hey, man, what the fuck are you doing? You know, she's got absolutely nothing with what you're internalizing. And now that is what makes me. Turn into you and say, "Hey, listen, I'm sorry." You know what I mean? 'Cause it's not you. It's something that is happening with me. Maybe my medication is running out. - no.
Ivonne Harris | 18:16
Well yeah, you usually be like, "I just need some.
Deron Harris | 18:18
Time." - I just, but a lot of times I just put my headphones on. - Right. - You know, and that's what all this does. That's what it's all for.
You know, I put my headphones on. Or I write something. I write. I write every day.
Ivonne Harris | 18:32
Yeah, and you're finding ways to release certain things. And that's exactly... You go and, hey, I'm not going to sit here and overthink this or whatever it may be, you know, and just be like, I'm going to go and do something else that...
Deron Harris | 18:43
That's exactly what.
Ivonne Harris | 18:46
It is. And actually, at the end of the day, it kind of brings you joy because if you go make some beats and put the headphones on or play a game, whatever it is, it's something that you enjoy doing.
So it keeps your mind from... Whatever it was that made you upset. Because sometimes I don't know. You don't tell me.
Deron Harris | 19:05
Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm always for you. I'm an open book. I like that. Bye. I'm an open book. But for you, I'm an open book. And I mean, it's, you ask me what you, I mean, and I'll.
You know, if there's anything that's bothering me, I don't have a problem letting you know if I have an issue. Well, sometimes, you know, I'm like, hey, well, you know what, babe, this. But, you know, sometimes there are things that kind of are like, you know, got me off in.
You know, someplace else, you know, and sometimes we really have, it's just, you know, something I don't, you know, I don't think that. I just don't want to bother you with it and have you over here like, well, because I don't know why.
Ivonne Harris | 19:51
Yeah, you're good at communicating.
Deron Harris | 19:51
Just – but I try to be. I will say that.
Well, that's – I guess that's – to go back to the previous question, I guess that's another lesson. To be learned, especially in, I'll say this for any of you, communication is, they say communication is key. That's not bullshit. That's real deal, holy feel right there.
I mean, because if you start not telling people what's bothering you, eventually you build up resentments.
Ivonne Harris | 20:20
- Yes, and then now you're wanna break up.
Deron Harris | 20:21
All-- - Now you're all pissed off, and now you mad.
Ivonne Harris | 20:23
- Pissed off for no reason, just.
Deron Harris | 20:25
- And I could've fucking, damn, all you had to do is say turn the fucking light off, and I didn't have to keep the oven light on all damn night, you know what I mean? You know, just whatever it is, you know, if I can tell you before it. Before I react to it and that's the thing when it gets back to we don't really fight we have disagreements because I don't really think that you do anything that makes me angry and You might do something that I might disagree with. Right. That's not necessarily my solution, but I'm willing to hear what your solution is, or your reasoning behind why you do it, because I don't want to necessarily take that away from you if you think, because you think a different way. Now, I'm always willing to find a compromise, and I'm always willing as well to concede if your way is better or exceeds my way, because my wife is smart. I know she is.
Sometimes, you know, I'm a dumbass and I know that I am, you know, so I'm not going to be, you know, try to be this domineering motherfucker. Like, no, I don't give a shit.
You know, we're going to do it the way that I'm doing it. Yeah, you're You know, I'm not going to do that.
Ivonne Harris | 21:26
Open to listening.
Deron Harris | 21:29
And that's another thing in, I guess, in my relationship with you is, you know, be open to what you have to say. You know, not for nothing, don't take it as an attack on my manhood. I don't take it as you being condescending. I don't take it as anything. I take it as an opportunity to learn from my wife who I know can teach me things. If I didn't think that, I wouldn't have married her in the first place.
I mean, you know, if I thought that, you know, it was a fucking deep city over here, I would have been like. You know, I... A Z that.
Ivonne Harris | 22:01
CD. I like.
Deron Harris | 22:03
But, you know, I mean, but I... Let me not say that either, because I guess I think I... - You have a huge heart and I have a huge heart. You're like a version of me that will that doesn't really care about people like that. You do but you like, you know what it cut these motherfuckers off.
Ivonne Harris | 22:27
- But you like love - I love everything. - I love everything. - And you, I can see that. And sometimes I'm like, well, mean, I mean, last night I was ready, but that is what it is.
Deron Harris | 22:34
I.
Ivonne Harris | 22:39
Last night I was ready to whoop ass for you. But yeah, well, I mean. I just feel like You definitely, I mean, the love is there. I feel it all the do.
Deron Harris | 22:51
Time. Well, that's what we're Cancers. That's what we.
Ivonne Harris | 22:54
But then you want everything. To be not great, but you just want everybody to get. Hey, man, why is there so much chaos?
Deron Harris | 23:02
Why the fuck you got to be fighting each other? Because, I mean, my thing is this. Mind your fucking business. And you can be nice about minding your Yeah, don't insert your shit into my shit if there's no reason for you to insert your shit.
Ivonne Harris | 23:10
Fucking business. What was our word this week? Insertion?
Deron Harris | 23:19
And then we keep the conflict level low. But the problem is a lot of people feel like they want to insert themselves into some shit that.
You know, people have going on.
Ivonne Harris | 23:29
Your happiness. Yeah.
Deron Harris | 23:30
They try to rob you for your happiness because they want to insert or try to waft you with their influence of what they believe or their beliefs, and then that's what makes the world fucked up. Listen, I respect what motherfuckers do believe. I don't believe what you believe, but I respect what believe.
Ivonne Harris | 23:49
You.
Deron Harris | 23:50
It's not going to make me want to fucking fight you. You know, it's just because you believe, you know, even if you believe some shit short of, you think I should be in fucking trains or some shit like that.
You know what I'm saying? Some shit like this short of some shit like that You know, I don't think that, you know, healthcare should be da-da-da-da, should be absolutely free. Okay.
You know, I... That's cool. I believe it should be. I'm entitled to that. That's what this country is about or we think it's about. Right. We hope that it's about well, that it may not be about for two months longer. Right.
You know that. But that's what we hope when we're here. And that's why I myself, I'm able to say, hey, listen, even though I talk about a lot of things that happened in the past, even though I talk about. A lot of things that have hurt a lot of people along the way, you know, even though I talk about the continuing disparities, you know, that people still face in the country today. I still, like I said, have this capacity to love people and to want people to love and respect each other.
You know, and I feel that for all people. And I really hope that people, you know, can grasp onto it. But it just seems like. There's so much complacency we're not gonna get a chance to. It's looking like a lot.
Ivonne Harris | 25:07
Of fucking-- - And I think, because you have that. I think where I've done is lost hope because I'm just like, I love everything. - Right. People get along, but I'm like... These Yeah, that's my attitude, and I'm just like.
Deron Harris | 25:21
People. Yeah, fuck y'all. Ugh. And some of them, I'm like, yeah, I'm a cancer, though.
You know what I mean? Right. My attitude is very much, fuck you.
Ivonne Harris | 25:33
Yeah once you get.
Deron Harris | 25:35
There that's it but I don't I have a lot of tolerance for humanity because I know that humanity is flawed and I know that because I'm part of humanity. I'm fucking you know like a nut job a lot of times you know and I think well who's perfect exactly and that's exactly it nobody is perfect but people these days I guess they really do expect and want people to be perfect and if they're not or their idea of what their perfect It most definitely is.
Ivonne Harris | 26:10
Is I was about to say what is that it's what perfect for me can be different.
Deron Harris | 26:16
For what it is to you? Listen, perfect to people is like your fingerprint.
You know what I'm saying? Your perfect is different than my perfect is different than the next person's perfect.
You know what I'm saying? I mean, you can you could tell that with the people that people love.
I mean, there's influencers that I've seen where there's this big muscular guy and he's got a great physique and he's married to somebody. Who's, I don't want to say morbidly obese, but it's heavier than he is and isn't really in shape like that. I really don't want to be her.
Ivonne Harris | 26:50
Derogatory, but you know what I mean. He loves looking at them like, what is he seeing her?
Deron Harris | 26:53
Yeah, and he loves her and she loves him and that's what it is. And people are like... People That judging?
Ivonne Harris | 26:59
Exactly, the bullshit is...
Deron Harris | 27:01
Yeah, that bullshit is... You don't know what's happening. People just get into their business.
Ivonne Harris | 27:05
Right. Again, what did they do? Insert. Insert.
Deron Harris | 27:08
Themselves into people's business. And it's. It's... It's annoying as fuck. And It's divisive. It's condescending. It comes from a place of hatred. It comes from a place of hurt. It comes from a place of ignorance. And these people don't mind being that way over the Internet or over social media because they know that there are no repercussions. Right.
You know, they lash out and they jab and they say the most vile shit that they want to say to people on the Internet because they know they won't get jammed in their fucking mouth for saying stupid shit to people. You know, and or but that's the thing, you know, people. People have this. There is a lot of this in our society, and that's because we're all wound so tightly. There's so much hate now. There's so much hatred now. Well. There's so much hatred now. Well.
Ivonne Harris | 28:09
Opposite of hate, let's go back to challenges.
Deron Harris | 28:11
Love. Yeah, you're right, girl. I'm sorry. I got on some.
Ivonne Harris | 28:14
So speaking of love. What's one thing each of your sons has taught you?
Deron Harris | 28:27
Wow.
Deron has taught me resilience. Deron has taught me how to be resilient.
You know, how to, Like. How to die. Deal with a huge amount of adversity. Huge amount of setback. We dealt some bullshit right from the get-go, but still... Be tenacious enough to try and put things together and formulate things. And, you know, even though he may not, you know, succeed in certain things or never, ever, he doesn't give up.
You know, he wants to do it, and the one thing he wants to do it, he wants to do it for his family. Right. That's the one thing he wants to do it for the betterment of everybody else. He doesn't really think, his friends and family think about them relentlessly, and he's very selfless. But at the same time, he's very fucking selfish. I don't know how the fuck he does that. But.
Ivonne Harris | 29:31
He does it with a.
Deron Harris | 29:32
Smile. He does it willingly and he works hard and he tries to formulate the things that he thinks would benefit people the best.
You know, he wants to champion for people Right. And I guess Mike has taught me that I'm a complete dumbass. I'm a super dumbass. - It's hard to have, well, It's... It's... It makes me proud to have a son with his intellect.
You know, that's somebody that has his attention to community, has his attention to doing the right thing. He is almost like Captain America. When he was a kid, he wanted to be fucking Captain America. Wow.
Yeah, he did. He wanted to be because Captain America was right and just, and nothing could permeate Captain America, and Captain America was what is good with the world, and he was Mr. Captain America. We went to Universal Studios. I'll never forget it. He was, man, I can't remember. He was about... Thanks. - Wow. - Maybe six or seven. And we rolled up on Captain America. We started Captain America and he was like, there's... And he says straight up to me, that's not Captain America, Dad. And I said, I told the guy, me and the guy, I was like, hey. I told him straight up, I was like, he's going to know, dude. He's going to know you're not Captain America. You need to pull some shit out. And he really did. He went up there and he straight up grilled this dude on who you were supposed to Yeah, at seven.
Ivonne Harris | 31:15
Be. He was telling him?
Deron Harris | 31:18
Wow. You don't have... You don't even know... This isn't Captain America, go.
Ivonne Harris | 31:24
Dad. You're like, all right, come on, we gotta.
Deron Harris | 31:25
Yeah, we gotta go. Sorry, dude. But his attention to detail and his... His immense heart. Just Man, I just... I don't know. Mike teaches me that you can do anything. That you really put your mind to. You can do it. If you just, I mean, he makes school look like it ain't shit.
Ivonne Harris | 31:53
Right. And on to the next one.
Deron Harris | 31:56
He asked me the other day, I was like, it's summertime. He's in school. He's going to go back to high school. But he's in college for college classes. - That's so great. - And I'm like, well, you know, hey dude, how you doing with your college? " it's nothing." Really? Is nothing?
Yeah, it's nothing. Just It's easy like that.
Yeah. I got a little bit of homework, but you know. What's your grades look like? I get everything right.
Ivonne Harris | 32:23
He's taught me some over it.
Deron Harris | 32:25
Stuff. Listen, he's incredible. I just can't get Yeah, listen, I really want that guy to run for something big.
Ivonne Harris | 32:28
Yeah, I'm always like, I'm going to do it Mike's way.
Deron Harris | 32:36
I think he wants to be a police officer.
Ivonne Harris | 32:38
I think he can run and let him go. That's all right. He's going to help the community.
Deron Harris | 32:44
I really want it. And he will see that's the thing. But see, I tried to influence him a little bit. But I don't really want to influence him because I, of course, want him to do what he wants to do. But I said, listen, if you're going to be a cop, son. Be an internal affairs cop. Go and get these fuckers. Go and get the dudes that's going out here in the streets. That's laying us down in the streets. That's shooting us in the fucking back. That's lying. That's telling people that when we get hung from trees, like where they're finding us hanging from trees all of a sudden in these different communities across the country. And all of every single one of them has been ruled a suicide. No foul play. Nothing. These people are clearly on camera.
Ivonne Harris | 33:22
That.
Deron Harris | 33:23
You know, for real. I got to climb the shit out this tree and then jump the fuck off here and hang myself. I can figure out. Other ways like i could shoot myself in the mouth or someplace you know i mean before i do this i could off but i'm gonna go out here and lynch myself no man that's something that's going on that's something that's being allowed that's something that's being tolerated and those people that's the quickest way for them to write it off into nothing Is to say that there's no foul play that this was a suicide they closed the fucking case.
Ivonne Harris | 33:33
I could yeah they could jump.
You're saying they just cover that up yeah go handle.
Deron Harris | 33:56
There's no investigation. Fuck you. Bye And it's unfortunate.
Ivonne Harris | 34:00
Well, that's happening right.
Deron Harris | 34:01
Now, though. It just happened in Albany. It happened in Chicago. It happened in New York. It happened in California. It happened in a few other places where they're finding these people hanging Well, that's what I'm saying.
Ivonne Harris | 34:13
From. Hanging. I thought it was like shady cops. Remember the lady that got shot by her partner?
Deron Harris | 34:19
A lot of these cops, a lot of the cop, the police organizations, this has happened quite a few. This has happened a lot. Right. And quite a few of these organizations. Then the one common factor in all of these cases has been ruled. It hasn't been ruled a homicide. It's been ruled a suicide. And. That's it. And it's, you know, the place in California, the place out in such and such, the place up in Albany.
Yeah, it's fucking wild business. They won't say nothing about that.
Listen, nobody's fucking talking about it, none of that shit.
Ivonne Harris | 34:47
Well, hopefully Mike.
Deron Harris | 34:49
That's what I'm talking about. And that's he is you know, God bless him.
Ivonne Harris | 34:51
Because he is. He said it.
You know, he's.
Deron Harris | 34:55
And I really, you know, I really hope that he, you know, he wants to go into a dangerous profession, but he's going on with the best intentions. And I really hope that, you know, especially with, you know, time is changing into where they're changing that, you know, things are going to get more dangerous out here on the streets.
You know, people don't think they are, but you fucking watch. And I just want him to be safe. Right. But because I know that he is good for us. He is good for everybody. Yes. And I know that he wants.
Ivonne Harris | 35:23
To be. I'm excited.
I mean, of course, nervous, you know. Yeah. But I don't want to put all that negative energy, you know.
Yeah, well. In this world, though, we can't be like, be blind to it either.
Yeah, well. It's There's no in that, but okay.
Deron Harris | 35:37
Out here. My first inclination is to have negative energy. Positivity I'm not always negative. I have a lot of positive, where I feel Absolutely.
Ivonne Harris | 35:49
Positive. Well, we know where his heart is at.
Deron Harris | 35:52
And that's 100%. Like what I'm counting on. - Right. - And I know that he is very charismatic and I know people gravitate to him. And I just hope that, you know, what he has can rub off on some of society and they can feel a little bit of what he has.
Ivonne Harris | 36:15
I like that. Okay. Now we're going to move on to your blended family. Okay. What surprised you most about becoming part of a blended family?
Deron Harris | 36:30
What surprised me most? How everybody in that extended blended family immediately didn't pass judgment on me, looked at me like I was already part of their family, even before we got married. Right. Everybody was like, this motherfucker's cool. Yes. I was like, these people are fucking awesome.
Ivonne Harris | 36:54
I know, Kimberly calls you brother!.
Deron Harris | 36:56
Yeah! That's my girl. Like, I love my extended family.
Like, I really do. I mean, like... And it's good because it's different culture.
You know what I mean? And I fucking hate that shit, man. It's because, you know, it's different culture.
You know, the culture that I really am, I want to learn about it because, A, I respect people and their culture.
Ivonne Harris | 37:18
Yeah, I should, I... I should be teaching you Spanish. But you ain't though. But I'm going to tell you like I used to tell the girl. Listen.
Yeah. You don't want to learn from me.
Deron Harris | 37:27
Excuses here.
Ivonne Harris | 37:28
Only satisfy those that make it. Well, you can, but then I don't want you out give a fuck.
Deron Harris | 37:31
I don't give a fuck. I'll learn bad bunny Spanish. I don't Give a fuck.
Ivonne Harris | 37:34
Bad bunny Spanish. Okay, I'm going to teach you. I'm going to baby.
Deron Harris | 37:40
Teach you my way. Yeah, teach me Spanish.
Ivonne Harris | 37:42
Yeah, because when I'm talking to my sister, I don't want you to think we're talking about you. It's just a habit that we start in English and end up in Spanish.
Deron Harris | 37:49
I know that you are. I don't care if you are, and I know that you're not. And I know if you did, it wouldn't be anything malicious because... I just know.
You know what I mean? I can feel that shit. I guess if you Dall-E a dumbass, I can feel that shit. I know. But You know, I, as far as... My extended family, I mean... My sister-in-laws, both my sister-in-laws, you know, both of the people that they're with, you know what I mean, their kids.
You know what I mean? It's everybody is just super real with me, and I appreciate every single minute. When we went to the wedding. Yeah, that was fun. That was great. It was a whole party. And it gave me an opportunity to meet your family and to see you in your 100% complete and total element, no matter, you know, your hair was down, you know, you were Ivonne, because this is where Ivonne is from. Right, this is where I come from. This is where you're the most comfortable, this is the most authentic person that I'm ever going to meet. Is being here with you and all your family.
Ivonne Harris | 38:57
Listen, I didn't act that shit crazy. Like, that's who I am. Happy as can be, wanting to dance.
Deron Harris | 39:04
Yeah, that's... And eat. And that's... That's right. That's what made me love you.
I mean, just... Your family was just like, "Yo, for real.
You know what I mean? This is just the real one right here." And I just was like, "Yeah, for real." I concur. Thank you. Thank you.
Ivonne Harris | 39:21
All right. Well, speaking of family, I have a written note. From one of the kids for your special day. Okay. One thing I love about you is... Who's it from then? I was going to say at the One thing I love about you is your strength.
Deron Harris | 39:40
End. You can do that. I'm sorry. I didn't want to interrupt. Go ahead.
Ivonne Harris | 39:46
You're without a doubt one of the strongest people I have ever met, Dad. No matter what you have gone through, You've always managed to persevere and uplift the people around you. Every time we talk or see each other, it's always just the most fun and delightful time. You inspire me to be strong, Dad, and I love you so much for it. You're amazing and I'm thankful for all you have done for me and your unconditional support of me. I love you, Dad. Happy birthday. Mike.
Deron Harris | 40:19
That's my man right there. Tell him I will. I'll tell him thank you very much. That's my homie right there. I think he will be the recipient of the hobo hat. I will leave him the hobo hat once I move he loves it.
Ivonne Harris | 40:34
On. Yeah.
Deron Harris | 40:36
From when I leave this earth, I will leave Mike the hobo hat. Yeah, that's my buddy right there.
I mean... I don't want to say that I gave up my career for him.
You know, but... I turned into him rather into turning into... I turned into coming, I wanted to be here. And I didn't care about standing on stage and making a whole bunch of people laugh, even though I had a potential to make a bunch of money. I was on television, blah. I wanted to come here and be this guy's dad. Because that opportunity was taken from me.
You know, earlier with Deron. And I wanted to come down here and Be available. Here I am. But at the same time, not be controlled by...
You know, said Sagittarius. So.
Ivonne Harris | 41:30
- Okay. Well, one last question. Not saying something bad is going to happen, but what do you want people to remember about you?
Deron Harris | 41:56
That I try as hard as I can. I love as hard as I can. There is. There's nothing that's going to really stop me from. Crying. To, I guess, Unite people. The I guess that I love people. I love everybody. I think that is what everyone deserves. I think everyone deserves love from everyone. I think every race deserves love, respect, and admiration for... Everybody, I believe that.
You know what I mean? I really do. And unfortunately, there are... There's bad apples in all races.
You know, there's bad apples that perpetuate the bullshit that we have going on. But I just... I just want everybody to remember about me that I tried as hard as I can to make people embrace or make people see that other people are just like they are. And deserve. They deserve compassion, they deserve grace, they deserve equality, You know, they deserve the same things because we are the same people. We're all the same. We're all the same. Nobody, we just are. There's nothing that... Really, anybody can say to challenge that, because if I punch your fucking ass in the mouth, you bleed just like I bleed. I'm sorry. I may be black. You might be white, but your motherfucking ass bleeds red.
Ivonne Harris | 43:42
And when you go to the bathroom, your dookie stinks.
Deron Harris | 43:44
Yeah, your whole dookie stinks like dookie stinks.
Ivonne Harris | 43:49
Took his time.
Deron Harris | 43:51
That was his chief. Took his time. That's nasty.
Ivonne Harris | 43:57
Yeah, that's nice what you said before all that, before we got to the Okay, well, babe.
Deron Harris | 44:02
Duking. Before the duke.
Ivonne Harris | 44:09
I want to thank you for letting me hijack your podcast. I want to thank you for loving us all. I want to thank you for being an amazing man. I love you. Thank you, baby. Happy 55.
Deron Harris | 44:25
Thank you, baby. I'm 55.
Ivonne Harris | 44:28
Yep. Okay. Okay. This is Ivonne Harris. Thanks for listening. See you on the next episode. All right. 


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